WestWind Airlines

Has anyone had this issue:

 When flying the 757 (from the Westwind Hangar) and only the 757, the controls were extremely unresponsive...roll and pitch rates were horrible making the plane fly like a slug.  It behaved this way every time I tried to fly it.

Next, when I'd choose a different aircraft (in this case the 767 from the Westwind Hangar) after flying the 757, it would also be unresponsive, sometimes just falling straight down at whatever attitude like a rock.

 Eventually, my FSX locked up and would not come back to life...had to reinstall the simulator.

 It's too bad too, since I love the 757!

Matt

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Matt Smith - WWA2218
Director, Aircraft & Scenery
Washington DC (KIAD) Hub

I have never had that problem flying any aircraft. I fly the 757 a lot and have never experienced what you describe. If the framerates were really low (3 fps range or lower), which I get a lot, it could cause problems like you are describing.

Mostly your problem just sounds wierd.

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WWA1702 Senior Command Captain +3
RWP SEL Instrument Rating (almost)
WW Test Pilot
Monster Driver

The only problem we ever had with the 757 was bouncing on some runways, but Mike fixed that with some tweaking of the aircraft.cfg file.  When I fly  FSX (I prefer FS9), I fly either the 757 or 727.

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Bob S.
Senior Command Captain
E.V.P. Scenery

Mike Gibbs:

I have never had that problem flying any aircraft. I fly the 757 a lot and have never experienced what you describe. If the framerates were really low (3 fps range or lower), which I get a lot, it could cause problems like you are describing.

Mostly your problem just sounds wierd.

 The story of my life.

 I don't recall low frame rates...tempted to try it again since I like the 757 a lot.  I'll let you know if something changes.

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Matt Smith - WWA2218
Director, Aircraft & Scenery
Washington DC (KIAD) Hub

Looking at this again, two things come to mind.

• I can't remember whether this works on the 757 or not, but the heading knob on some airplanes has an outer ring that adjusts the maximum bank angle. I have had really sluggish role rates when I accidentally turn that setting.
• If you accidentally got the sim rate to something like .1x instead of normal or 2x you can get that kind of effect. In essence, everthing would be happening at 1/10th the speed it should be.

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WWA1702 Senior Command Captain +3
RWP SEL Instrument Rating (almost)
WW Test Pilot
Monster Driver

Thanks, Mike...I ended up deleting the aircraft for good; for whatever reason flying the 757 impacts how well my program runs.

Fortunately the 767 is working for me, so when the time comes to fly a CATIV aircraft that'll have to be it!

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Matt Smith - WWA2218
Director, Aircraft & Scenery
Washington DC (KIAD) Hub

A little more info:

On the 757, it took approximately 6 seconds to roll from wings level to 30 degrees of bank, using full control inputs...frame rate was fine, as was the view out the window.

Then I noticed relatively sluggish performance with the Dash-8 as well.  Finally, the 767 locked up when I was in autopilot and tried to bring up the GPS (I think I might have been paused too).

The bottom line seems to be that add-on aircraft give my system a hard time.  Otherwise it runs FSX smoothly with the default planes, including in Westwind textures.

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Matt Smith - WWA2218
Director, Aircraft & Scenery
Washington DC (KIAD) Hub

Just out of curiosity what are your system specs?

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EHAM-YSSY B772LR

Here's some info on my system...as far as I can tell it is pretty good, and I get reasonable frame rates with default aircraft.  It says in the dxdiag text below that I have "2 CPUs", but I don't think that is true.

I flew the Dash 8 again last night with better results.  The 757 is still very sluggish...rolled more slowly by far than a 747!  Didn't have any lockup problems at least.

Thanks;

Matt

 

PS (edit): I'm leaving open the possibility that my expectations are too high.  How quickly does a 757 rotate from level to 30degrees of bank on your system?  Mine it takes 6-10 seconds, whereas on other aircraft it takes half that time.  I would think a 757 should be relatively nimble.

System Information
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Time of this report: 8/30/2008, 08:55:04
       Machine name: DESKTOP
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: PM800_
       System Model: PM800-8237
               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
             Memory: 2048MB RAM
          Page File: 442MB used, 3502MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

Display Devices
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        Card name: ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP
     Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
        Chip type: ATI display adapter AGP (0x9587)
         DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9587&SUBSYS_00281545&REV_00
   Display Memory: 512.0 MB

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Sound Devices
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            Description: SB Live! 24-bit
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0007&SUBSYS_10061102&REV_00
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: P17.sys
         Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0514 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: n/a
          Date and Size: 6/15/2007 10:47:26, 1127936 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: CREATIVE
         HW Accel Level: Full

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Matt Smith - WWA2218
Director, Aircraft & Scenery
Washington DC (KIAD) Hub